Toronto #2: Bearing Witness to “White Crosses”
November 4th, 2008 by jillysptags: tour, live
Last night, the Smashing Pumpkins took to the stage in Toronto for the first of their two-night stand there. I’m going to have to say — I’m a bit jealous since they get to be out of the country and away from the insane media coverage of the election. Can you say absentee ballots, Billy?
HU’s liveblogging competition tonight is apparently The Daily Show. Pshaw.
Since JJB is volunteering at the polls today as an election official, I am going to try to bring you a bit of news from HU friend 34 once again. He’s getting a better wi-fi signal today, but doesn’t guarantee live show updates. However, I do have some soundcheck notes from him, but I’ll hide them behind the jump. Definite spoiler alert! Find everything below now that the show is over.

11:44am - 34 reports that as he was waiting for breakfast, Landslide was on the radio. Alas — the Stevie Nicks version. But is it like the kind of foreshadowing your high school Brit Lit teacher spoke of?
2:50pm - “I hear bass drum, but suspect (and hope) it’s just the techs,” says 34.
3:03pm - 34 reports that a “Big Bearded Guy” has come out to move the cones. He speculates the band should arrive soon. Moments later, I receive word that BBG is wearing short sleeves in this freezing Canadian weather. Are Canadians better equipped to deal with the cold?
3:21pm - Scratch that. BBG is now wearing a big black jacket. As if you cared.
3:44pm - 34 reports: “Not much luck so far. Got here a little before noon along with another girl whom I recognized from outside last night, & she had to go back to Ottawa today, but decided to hang out a while to see if the band showed up. One finally did a little before 3, but it was empty. She left around 3:10. Of course, 10m later I saw Lisa go in- she looked over, smiled & said hi on her way in the door. I’m going to assume at this point that there won’t be a soundcheck today, esp after <spoiler songs> were in yesterdays… it’s now 3:44, and getting cold.”
3:45pm - Ugh. “Ran into smashing0 & was talking when the van pulled up. Everyone went in without really looking over. Guess I’m slummin’ it again.”
Okay, now it gets juicy…
UPDATE: NOW WITH FULL SETLIST DETAILS!!!
SOUNDCHECK //
4:55pm - Soundcheck kicks off with That’s The Way on acoustic.
5:05pm - Eric reports that they’re checking MCIS (!) with a violin lead, and likely horns and keys. He remarks that it “sounds almost like the bagpipes that are playing a few blocks away.”
5:12pm - Sit down, internet fanboys. They’re checking Gossamer.
5:27pm - 34 mentions it took them awhile to recognize the song, but that the band is playing Crestfallen.
5:35pm - Some sort of horn fanfare is checked straight into a “heavy song” with lyrics along the lines of “we are loaded guns.. just like everyone.” We’re wondering if this is new? Is it a cover? 34 mentions that the riff goes like this: 4—3—1—5-6b- :|| on 16ths.
5:39pm - Unknown song ends and now Jimmy’s soundchecking the drums only, just practicing and tweaking for a moment.
5:40pm - Seems like the soundcheck is done for now. That’s all for now, folks!
6:00pm - 34 has now migrated inside to watch the soundcheck with the band. He reports that the horns are doing MCIS, and Tonight, Tonight on the steps.
6:13pm - Soma is again being soundchecked.
6:20pm - Another unknown song is being played, 34 describes it with a “wah-wah-wah-wah-synthy bass drone…”
6:30pm - 34 laments that he is “kicked back outside while I wait for [the tour manager]. God, I hate security. They’re doing that 1-2-3-4—6—- song again.”
6:50pm - Ava Adore.
6:54pm - 34 reports that the band’s tour manager “comes out with an after-show pass - Apparently they were gonna bring me in for the soundcheck, but changed their mind ’cause they’re working on ’secret stuff.’ Oh well, at least there’s the A/S.” Are they on to the liveblog?! Or is 34 not as 1337 as he used to be?
6:56pm - Cupid de Locke with faster, almost calypso-like drums.
6:59pm - 1979.
7:05pm - Soundcheck is done. (For the second time?)
7:11pm - 34 snags a photo of the pass guide handed out to security (above) and heads on into the venue. Again, not sure yet if he’s going to be able to communicate from inside the venue, but stay tuned tonight and try to pull yourself away from the election coverage for news of the Pumpkins second night in the T-dot.
8:02pm - PA Music, 34 haz it: Pearl Jam, “Jeremy.” Then “Too Hot To Handle,” “Sabotage,” some KISS and “Bright Lights, City Lights.”
8:19pm - 34 says: “Lights out! uh-huh! blast, blast, blast. Synth intro, same as last night.”
8:21pm - The set opens up with Ava Adore. Rock. 34 reports that Billy Corgan is rocking a black robe and dress with white accents, holding lit-up trick-or-treat pumpkin pail. Sans guitar. The lyric “drinking mercury” comes a bit too early.
8:26pm - Cupid de Locke is up next with Jimmy Chamberlin on a marching band drum on harness. From his notes, it sounds like at this point Billy threw off his robe to reveal a black spider shirt & black shingle skirt.
8:28pm - 1979.
8:33pm - Billy grabs the acoustic guitar, thanks the audience, and clips on his harmonica!? Moments later he says, “I used to know you, I used to care, iutky, are you still there?” Straight into 99 Floors.
8:41pm - 34 reports that Billy loses harmonica for Owata: “Oh, what a beautiful sight, you are, oh, what a beautiful night…”
8:45pm - Next up: Sunkissed. And Billy sneezed.
8:51pm - 34 says: “SOMA!!!!!!1 Crowd goes nuts, no backing vox. Billy says: ‘Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen… Are you ready?’”
8:58pm - Cherub Rock.
9:02pm - Zero (for the run of hits).
9:04pm - 34 reports that Billy D-downtunes, straight into “BODIES!!!!!!!1″ and then makes some gratuitous Japanime smiley that I will never understand.
9:09pm - Crestfallen, electric, with plenty of backing harmony.
9:13pm - I of the Mourning, but with the first “radio” verse omitted, skipped a solo.
9:19pm - Song for a Son.
9:26pm - 34 reports that Billy switches to acoustic guitar; and “all but BC/JS (both ac) leave. Someone yells Obama, “I don’t see any Obama up here… This is not an open forum, this is a rock concert. We all know I do better when I sing, not when I talk… I didn’t write this next song - I wish I did…”
9:29pm - Landslide, alternate arrangement with a sing along chorus.
9:32pm - They swap to acoustic guitars, commenting, “Now I -did- write this next one…” Disarm.
9:35pm - Billy is off to one side, Gingger starts playing over drone, and cue MCIS with Lisa on keys.
9:40pm - GALAPOGOS. [ed.: OMG.]
9:45pm - Gossamer.
10:01pm - Gossamer ends and there is a horn fanfare into As Rome Burns, just the same as soundcheck.
10:05pm - Sounds of Silence. 34 says: “Holy shit this is weird! But cool!”
10:11pm - Into “Little Red Riding Hood”?!
10:14pm - March Hare. Billy Corgan on tambourine; tom beat. “As I’m singin’ from the trees, (there’s faith somewhere)x3, (whatever will be will be again), x4 (will? we’ll?)”
10:19pm - 34 exclaims: “Suffer! Skips ATYSIATYA part, starts with walking bass.”
10:23pm - Billy has now exchanged the guitar for the “funky wooden clacker thingy” [vibraslap, yo], Ginger is on maracas, and the rest of the band is on various percussion for “Whatever will be will be again.”
10:27pm - “Destination yes, hesitation no… Age of Innocence. Mid-song banter: ‘That is the end of the show.’”
10:35pm - Billy C. gives guitar away???!
10:39pm - Band back on stage for That’s the Way. Billy on acoustic, Jeff on electric, Jimmy on tambourine.
10:43pm - Band returns to their normal instruments for some banter and a thank you. Someone yells for Obama again, Billy says: “I’m very proud of my country for doing the right things.” Crowd guy: “Billy for president!” “Yeah, right. I’d tax your ass so bad…” After what I’m sure was a big laugh, Billy’s banter continued: “One more ride into interstellar space… so if you wanna leave…” 34 says: “Wahp wahp bass drone from soundcheck… “so high in the sky…” d00d… it’s I am One Part II - Holy. Fucking. Shit!!! I am SO gonna try running outside to send this ASAP! shit, I’m -glad- I wasn’t in there for the schk!”
11:01pm - End show.
Okay, I am exhausted. Sounds amazing.


November 4th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
BBG = Gio. could that heavy song be As Rome Burns?
November 4th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
It’s probably “As Rome Burns” which is what I expected. Sent 34 the lyrics via email to see if they rang a bell — we shall see. :)
reC: “Pierpont Express”
November 4th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
opening, MELLON COLLIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IMAGINE THAT!
November 4th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
I’d actually love MCIS as the closer….
November 4th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
ya opening with MCIS, how unoriginal is that..
i hope it either is the opening encore song or ending one
November 4th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Thank you for giving us the soundcheck early this time.
November 4th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Haha, wait a second. People are complaining that not enough old stuff is being played, but now that they’re soundchecking old stuff there’s complaining about placement of the old songs?
Lord have mercy. My mother must’ve gotten to you and taught you how to execute a professional guilt trip. I’m fairly certain MCIS was a perfectly suitable opener for nearly two years. Heck, SPFC doesn’t even list it as an opener for 1996 because it can just be assumed.
November 4th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
oh i’d be happy with it played anywhere in the set, I just thought it might be neat to hear it close out the show…..since Billy is into messing with our expectations.
November 4th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
ARE YOU NEVER PLEASED!??????!
November 4th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Any one of those into last night’s setlist would be such an improvement. Fuck, I may have to go to LA after all.
November 4th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Oh yeah. Hi, Jill. I never thanked you for totally snubbing me when you were in Vegas. That was pretty awesome.
November 4th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
I just don’t care for the sentimental and obvious placing of certain songs. which MCIS falls under.
November 4th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
maybe they’ll close the show with farewell and goodnight? that would be pretty sweet, opening on MCIS and closing on that
November 4th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
soundchckd sweetsweet
November 4th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
that was not the real me up there (show is not canceled, hope you didn’t believe that) but glad to see my name being put to good use around here
November 4th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
and it’s been taken care of already i see, cheers! :)
November 4th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
hello cool show
November 4th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Don’t worry… We want the REAL Floppy Nono troll to speak. *grin*
November 4th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
awesome soundcheck. I’d love if it opened with MCIS.
November 4th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
yes, my evil (or is he my good?) twin is the only one that should exist on this blog. there’s only room for 2 of us on this fanblog
November 4th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
is the flickr page gonna be updated again too?
November 4th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
official site says it will be and is also linking everyone to HU
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thesmashingpumpkins/
November 4th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
anyone know if there were free drinks at the ‘pre show party’ for the VIP?
November 4th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
VIP means Varies In Places so canada probably not
November 4th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Clever name, Poop. I haven’t heard an affirmative from anyone - for any of the shows. If only. I saw the Foo Fighters last night as part of the work conference I’m at in San Francisco — the free booze certainly endeared the band to the audience quite easily.
And yes, you’re hearing that right. The Foos did a corporate gig. It was.. surreal.
reC: “glasses survival”
November 4th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Didnt Billy mention special guest playing at these 20 anniv shows? Probably in NY and LA and Chicago he may bring out some people.
November 4th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
i would rather go to a soundcheck than an actual concert!
November 4th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
flickr site is updated, SPMM is running late and they’re doing 1979 with a drum machine into jimmy
November 4th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Cupid De Locke? Holy shit thats awesome
minute dunlevy
November 4th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
cherub rock and zero being played now as per flickr
November 4th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
BODIES!
November 4th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
BODIES JUST PLAYED!!!
November 4th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Though now I’m confused as to which night is supposed to be which…
November 4th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
SOMA just played with a nice intro.
November 4th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
Wow, very, very cool. Can’t wait to hear Bodies in NYC! *crosses fingers*
November 4th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Jill: Do you have any idea which show is supposed to be which?
November 4th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
i don’t even think billy corgan knows that steven
November 4th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
hahah that’s what i’m afraid of Floppy
November 4th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
I don’t know that it’s possible to figure it out. I think it’s just totally arbitrary; I’m going to predict a similar format as last night; three-part ‘act’ as one reviewer called it. I would imagine there’s another acoustic set mid-show and back into heavy stuff. Let’s see if I can do a side by side comparison here…
November 4th, 2008 at 9:21 pm
yeah, it looks maybe like billy decided to reverse setlists as a bit of a dirty little trick perhaps but it’ll take more songs to be sure i guess
November 4th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Steven, wtf are you talking about? Which show is supposed to be which….. there is only one show happening right now in Toronto. The other show was last night.. if youre referring to the flickr page, the night 2 photos start with the photo that says “Night 2 begins” :erm:
November 4th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
I just wish it was clearer which show is Black Sunshine and which is White Crosses. I assume tonight is White Crosses, but wasn’t that supposed to be mellower or whatever? And he’s wearing a black shirt tonight and wore a white one last night (although that’d be just like Billy, wouldn’t it)
rC: dejection marketed
November 4th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
WTF: Black Sunshine vs. White Crosses…that’s what I was referring to.
November 4th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
well i think billy said the setlists are supposed to be the same so if you’re waiting to see which show you should buy or whatever just wait for the next set of shows and see if they’re the same.
if you’re just wondering for the sake of wondering, last night WAS supposed to be black sunshine and tonight white crosses but im thinking maybe billy lured people into getting the show they thought the ywould get and then turned it around on them (giving black sunshine the white crosses show and white crosses the black sunshine)
November 4th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
I’m wondering just to wonder. I already have tickets to the second Auditorium Theatre show in Chicago, so I’m trying to figure out a bit of what I could expect, but I didn’t know if people here, who were more “in the know” had any idea.
November 4th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
i think you should expect what they play tonight (you mean you have the 2nd of the pair right?).
billy said the BS/WC shows had the same setlists for each pair so, unless he went nuts and changed that, if you have a white crosses show you will get everything they are playing tonight
November 4th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Bodies? holy SHIT
rC: dreams and
November 4th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
that’s what i’m assuming too. we’ll see though. we all know ol bill may decide to change his mind again
November 4th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
LANDSLIDE IOAHDAJDA
November 4th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
oh man, if people could only go to 1 show and decided on last night compared to tonight….
November 4th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
yeah thats what i was thinking dustrock, some people will be PISSED
ACTION WHITWELL!
November 4th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
jellybelly and tear
November 4th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
says who? this is blowing the other show out of the water.
November 4th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Wonder if there is any zeitgiest-american gothic songs yet :)
November 4th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
text from friends at show
November 4th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
well billy said they wanted to do sunkissed so i’m sure at least that will be there
November 4th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
im not believing jellybelly and tear until i get futher confirmation because if that is true my head will probabbly explode
Aeronaut Park
November 4th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
bleed and cash car star
November 4th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
home and in my body
November 4th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
BLEED!!!!!! or Bleeding The Orchid???
November 4th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
bleeding the orchid
November 4th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
In Billy’s latest blog didn’t he say “black crosses and white sunshine or is that reversed?” or something like that. Could have been a clue he was giving us. All he said was that each show would be a different set. He never said that the setlist would be static just that each show wouldn’t repeat a song. Maybe songs will float from one night to the other night as long as they aren’t played both nights. Just a thought…
November 4th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
girl named amyfiser
November 4th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
I wish I could see the descriptions better on the passes, I zoomed in but it’s blurry!
November 4th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
suffer tease
November 4th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Hmmm, AmyFisher has the same IP address as DrBlaze, who commented earlier. Amy, you sure you’re legit? :)
You’re making the lot of us crazy, if it’s all true!
reC: “10 recalled” oh lord.. please no.
November 4th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
I’m thinking that livesmashingpumpkins will sell a million copies of this show if this setlist is true.
November 4th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
i can live blog saturday night from AC @ borgata
November 4th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I will be there too, Glass! You making it up to the NYC shows?
November 4th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
My travel days are over after the 12 hours to asheville last june lol, 2 hour drive to borgata all i am doing this time :)
November 4th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
new songs
November 4th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
acoustic tarantula
November 4th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
If your going jilly i dont need to blog and i can enjoy the show and drink woot woot!!
November 4th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Accouding to flickr, Landslide, Bodies, Zero, Cherub Rock & 1979 have been played so far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 4th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
ok now i know this has to be a troll. either that or billy broke his no double songs rule
reC was, and i shit you not: Monte IT
November 4th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
and that is where you lost me!
November 4th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
Floppy - scariest reC yet.
And um.. CNN is now using a HOLOGRAM to teleport in Will.i.am of the Black Eyed Peas. To speak with Anderson Cooper.
My mind is blown.
November 4th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6595/montehuyy4.jpg
and rofl @ cnn
November 4th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
unless its acoustic thats the way
if not you are full of shit
rC caring wagon
November 4th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Anybody know what time the show started? Should be ending soon I think.
November 4th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
I DON’T KNOW CHRIS I THINK I HAVE LOST MY MIND AND ALL TRACK OF TIME WITH THIS ELECTION COVERAGE OMG.
(there’s a solid chance you see *me* melt down tonight. can’t. turn. tv. off.)
November 4th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Is anyone really believing Soma, jellybelly and bodies?
come on now.
November 4th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Bodies was played. Refer to their Flickr stream.
Un-freaking-believable! So wish I was there!!!!
November 4th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
show is over
now the wait for the setlist……i hope someone filmed some of this
November 4th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
I am reserving judgment on Soma / Jellybelly / Bleeding the Orchid etc until we get the full setlist from 34. That’s a pretty ridiculous setlist if it’s true. I’m hoping, but also unwilling to be trolled!
November 4th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Jilly - I agree!!!!
November 4th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Looks like Hack is posting photos of merch now?! Good gracious.
reC: dis- Congress (how fitting!)
November 4th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
45 bucks for a t-shirt?
November 4th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
hmm, i see the old new zero shirt but not the new new zero shirt?
reC: 124th avenue (wtf)
November 4th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Where is the setlist for this show????
November 4th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
HACK is a very appropriate username… and jesse jackson is bawling like a baby on CNN.. is 34’s 1980’s cell phone working yet?
November 4th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Based on the liveblog earlier, 34 got an after-show pass, so he’s probably there right now.
November 4th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
a) NP: Concession Speech
b) 34 does not have a 1980s cell phone. He lives in Japan and is too cheap to send us texts for like $5.00 apiece on international roaming. Have you seen how many notes he includes?
I know we’re restless; hopefully we’ll have something soon. I’m sure he’s schmoozing backstage. Grrz.
November 4th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
somebody really should have been kind enough to offer that man their cell phone.
i mean, it’s for the good of the community RIGHT??
November 4th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Community First!
November 4th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Unlimited free texts FTW.
Anyway, here’s hoping the shows in the US will have people who actually live in the US relaying the setlists
November 4th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Holy fuck! The president lives on the South Side! Hell yeah!
November 4th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
According to someone on Netphoria:
(not in order)
Ava Adore
Cupid de Locke
1979
Soma
Bodies
I Of The Mourning
Galapogos
Cherub Rock
Gossamer
As Rome Burns
The March Hare > Suffer
99 Floors
Sunkissed
A Song For A Son
The Sound Of Silence
Landslide
Disarm
MCIS (horns & violin)
Encore:
(That’s The Way) My Love Is
Some droning song with lyrics from I Am One Part II (I am dead serious)
Insane if true. Awaiting full report.
November 4th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
setlist posted at the ‘phoria. Unconfirmed, but it is out there. If true, my god… Originally Posted by -derek- View Post
Alright, quick setlist post before I rant about how the show ended:
Not in order:
Ava Adore
Cupid de Locke
1979
Soma
Bodies
I Of The Mourning
Galapogos
Cherub Rock
Gossamer
As Rome Burns
The March Hare > Suffer
99 Floors
Sunkissed
A Song For A Son
The Sound Of Silence
Landslide
Disarm
MCIS (horns & violin)
Encore:
(That’s The Way) My Love Is
Some droning song with lyrics from I Am One Part II (I am dead serious)
That’s all I can remember right now.
November 4th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
to further validity of this setlist, poster has confirmed that he does indeed “bet his dick on it”
November 4th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
why isn’t zero on there
November 4th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
If it’s true, I’m sure we will have corroboration (in copious note-taking form) from 34 soon.
November 4th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Decent setlist, id like to hear my songs from zeitgiest BRING THE FUCKING LIGHT
AND STARZ!
November 4th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Zero was played its not in that list doh!
November 4th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
He came back and trashed the I AM One II drone-y thing and said Crestfallen got played too.
ReC: adopting time
November 4th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Hmm… no Zero and wasn’t Disarm played last night???
I hate the Pumpkins new ‘official’ website, what a joke… Why not just make a website similar to Pearl Jam’s… Skip the bells and whistles and give the fans what they want, something easy to navigate and RELIABLE!!!!!
November 4th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
The borgata special show better get a hell of a set list with these new songs added to the mix
ill take this set
SIVA
ZERO
CHERUB ROCK
SOMA
BODIES
AVA ADORE
TRANSFORMER
SPEED KILLS
AS ROME BURNS
GLOW
GOSSAMER
I OF THE MOURNING
GALAPOGAS
CUPID
LANDSLIDE
EYE
MAYO
ONCE UPON A TIME
TEITBETE
TONIGHT TONIGHT
HEAVY MM
November 4th, 2008 at 11:54 pm
The poster also mentioned crestfallen
November 4th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Apparently Age Of Innocence closed the main set.
November 4th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
also now saying age of innocence
November 4th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
And Age of Innocence
November 4th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
SP.com needs to update faster
November 5th, 2008 at 12:20 am
Soma??? Age of Innocence???
This better be for real, and they better show up on the setlist at the shows I’m going to.
November 5th, 2008 at 12:27 am
holy shit. NOW i’m jealous
November 5th, 2008 at 12:27 am
What happened to the HU blogger?
November 5th, 2008 at 12:29 am
japan happens, what’re ya gonna do?
November 5th, 2008 at 12:34 am
The list real… Zero and Disarm are also in there.
November 5th, 2008 at 12:35 am
also owata but i’m sure everyone just assumed that was there anyway
November 5th, 2008 at 12:36 am
I think its safe to say that the reported setlist is true, getting a fair amount of eye witness accounts now.
Good job Billy, yesterday you lost many of your fans, today, you got them back.
crazy stuff.
November 5th, 2008 at 12:38 am
HU liveblog got netphoriowned (for once)
November 5th, 2008 at 1:05 am
For those wondering if it was taped:

November 5th, 2008 at 1:20 am
Sad that “Muzzle” got cut.
November 5th, 2008 at 1:30 am
anyone have VIP?
November 5th, 2008 at 1:30 am
Regarding the wi-fi delay, 34 followed up via email after the show. Apparently, he tried to get a signal after the show but the band was asking him to stick around for the after-party. He said there weren’t any wi-fi signals he could get ahold of.
According to 34, the scene backstage was giddy with election news and glued to their blackberries:
But he did. And we Baracked the vote. [lolz]
Sorry, I couldn’t help it.
November 5th, 2008 at 1:37 am
Shit… Muzzle would have been nice…
For anyone interested, Corgan said he was very proud of his country tonight for doing the right thing.
November 5th, 2008 at 1:38 am
what a fucking night. just got back from grant park. go obama. go pumpkins. go world!
floppy, what’d i tell you! :-)
November 5th, 2008 at 1:42 am
couple fixes before bed (for real this time)…
I never actually made it all the way in for the schk- was just inside the side door surrounded by security people while I waited for 1/2 hr for them to tell me to go back & wait outside.. but obviously I could hear a lot better, esp the horn guys, who were on the stairs 1/2 a flight up from there
-I- sneezed, not Billy- I put that there so I’d remember to check & adjust the levels as/if necessary
security said the after-show would be right away
oh- and apparently that 1-2-3-4—6—– bass riff was “probably one of the roadies playing like, their one bass line when we were off the stage.” lol.
November 5th, 2008 at 1:42 am
The first paper setlist is from the stage, here’s a shot of the setlist 34 snagged from the dressing room:

November 5th, 2008 at 1:45 am
And photos of the pass and picks from tonight:

November 5th, 2008 at 1:51 am
ok, I lied about bed- but I don’t wanna forget this one… I said almost right away that I couldn’t believe they did IAOpt2, & Billy goes “yeah, I just pulled that one outta my ass. I tried singing Beautiful over it, but it didn’t work.” lolzorz.
November 5th, 2008 at 2:09 am
Shut the fuck up about Netphoria. We all love SP.
November 5th, 2008 at 3:12 am
[…] Continue here: Toronto #2: Bearing Witness to “White Crosses” […]
November 5th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Awwww, fuck! Bodies! I’ve been waiting for it since the Mellon Collie Tour… TWELVE YEARS BACK. Fuck.
Hope they move the anniversary show here in the Old Continent. Fuck. Age of Innocence. Crestfallen. Moan… Fanculo :(
November 5th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Bodies?!
Best set list in a while.
November 5th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Finally a good set list now play me the best one saturday at the SS show :)
November 5th, 2008 at 10:03 am
What an amazing set list, i would have loved to have been there, i hope they come back to the UK soon.
Good work 34, what a legend!
November 5th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Holy shit, this is the best setlist since they’ve reunited, and one of the best they’ve EVER played.
November 5th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Am I correct in assuming that the 34 at these shows is the same 34 from AMSP many, many years ago?
November 5th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
is this show up yet?
November 5th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
SOMA!!!!
November 5th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
I think 34 = Eric Agnew, but not sure (just guessing based on the whole Japan thing)
November 5th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
AMSP - we all know who 34 from times past is. I was trying to keep it 1337. :)
November 5th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
New concept album to be titled ‘Parliga’.
November 5th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
what was the VIP pre party like?
November 5th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
I desperately want a boot of this. What happened to those official bootlegs?
November 5th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
[…] commentary during last night’s concert in Toronto is featured among a variety of rock-and-roll reactions posted on the Brooklyn Vegan […]
November 5th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
NOW THIS IS WHAT WE ALL CAME TO SEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 5th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
It makes my heart ache to think I’m missing this because I wouldn’t spend $250 to fly to Boston.
November 5th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
The show is now out on zomb i got 80 percent completed as torrent file woosh!
November 5th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
why hasnt this been uploaded on the archive yet??
November 6th, 2008 at 1:45 am
FUCK YOU ALL! :(
November 6th, 2008 at 2:29 am
httc…….hehehehe u go to the black sunshine concert??? or the single??? hehehe
November 6th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Ok, I’m so glad I’m going now…Yay!